@MissEve the fact that u keep coming back to this chapter just to see if people replied to your comment is so hilarious like are u that worried what people will say and serious shi mei out of all the characters😭🤣.
@MissEve
At the end of the day it all depends on you…I just described what to expect from the plot cz I felt like u were a bit confused where is this going…I wasn’t trying to convince u to read cz reading is something that totally depends on the readers taste and mood, looks like some people misunderstood lol…
If you feel like continuing for either plot or art or both thn it’s fine…but if u drop it sometimes in the future then it’s also totally fine…u don’t have to force urself to read or like it cz many other people like it…it also doesn’t mean ur calling it bad…
Many people like One piece but I don’t and this not liking – it’s totally fine…Do whatever u want…❤️…
I made that original comment because I had been SO excited to give this a try, especially when I saw how beautiful it was, and was disappointed that none of what was going on in it jived with me. It was kind of like finding a gorgeous cake in a shop, getting it home, and having an allergic reaction. The thing is, I’m starting to get worried that people think I’m calling it *bad* – that’s not it at all! I might go around taking the mickey out of some of the things posted here, but ultimately, these all started as novels, posted on the internet for free, that are one person’s labour of love. You don’t have to sell it to me or defend it! Maybe I’m here to be salty on occasion, and maybe I’ll give my two cents on portrayals of queer folks like myself in these works, but I’m SURE not here to be judgey about what people like!
I’m an artist, and I went to school for the arts. I’m no stranger to reading and watching dense, difficult work, and I have done since I was about 12. I’m also perfectly content with the fact that not wanting to run out and put something on my shelf immediately does not make it BAD. Like, does the fact that the only song I enjoy listening to on The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill is Everything is Everything mean that the entire album isn’t an incredible milestone in hip hop history? Absolutely not!
All I’m saying is that when I’m reading a romance SPECIFICALLY – not an erotic thriller, not a fantasy with a romance in it, a ROMANCE – I want to believe in the couple, and I prefer to be sold on it fairly early on. I like a slow burn, but I want to look at the characters and be like “oh I am going to enjoy getting blue balled on this” – so far, this isn’t giving that for me. I also have a couple of hard outs, which are SA and relentless pursuit of someone who isn’t interested and eventually wearing that person down. Had it happen to me multiple times, and I hated every one.
None of that, however, is a knock on the work! It’s just what *I* like, and I happen to prefer to engage in the genre in a very self indulgent way, which is why I’m so picky about the content beyond the merit of the work itself. That said, for a lot of people, I’m sure this IS self indulgent! It’s just not self indulgent for *me*.
That said, I’m going to continue to give it a whirl for the art, which I’m in absolute lesbians with, and since I’m doing that, I’m going to treat the story itself like an intense amusement park ride I’m trying to get used to! Maybe I’ll be able to, maybe I won’t, y’know?
@MissEve …a lot of people are trying to convince you to read this but…from all your comments I would say, forget it. This is clearly not a novel for you. It is too emotionally complex with difficult material that you do not wish to engage with so…it is best to turn away from this one. Anyone who would place tl:dr in a comment is automatically probably not cut out for 2HA because if you aren’t reading carefully…why bother. It is good to be aware of your boundaries and move on to material you prefer.
@MissEve
Don’t worry it’s a very very hard earned HE…For the main couple at least…there’ll beloved and important side characters dying here and there…And their past life will play a big role, it’s not “just there” like many reborn novels…
And shi mei is a great villain…Seriously he’s onr of the best and well made villain I’ve read in web novel…he has reasons(that doesn’t mean it’s excusable tho), plans and goals for his actions, unlike many other 2d villains…and shi mei never liked mo ran, the good treatment and white lotus like antics are all his pretense…He’s a ruthless sly fox(not actual fox, a metaphor)…he’s actually very jealous of mo ran, I can’t explain why, cz it’ll be a massive spoiler…and yeah he’s behind MLs mental instability…
the plot will unravel itself slowly and everything will have a reason by the end…
cz as @yumi_chan said it’s a long ass novel…and yeah mo ran 2.0 becomes really sweet and devoted…
2.0 is what author and readers call him that when he becomes stable and the true him, past mo ran is mo ran 0.5 and current one is 1.0 lol…
Also husky, white cat etc aren’t used here as literally…It’s more like their spirit animals are like them…like- shizun is a tsundere like a cat, loves you but won’t say it and express it…rather doing opposite…
mo ran when instable is like a dumb rabid dog without who won’t listen to u no matter what…but when he’s stable he’s like a lovable husky who does dumb things to impress the one he likes…
also shizuns other discipke xue meng is like a peacock cz he always worried for his looks lol…and shi mei one I already said…
Still *extremely* skeptical, but I’ll bounce around for the pretty art and I guess we’ll see? I know it’s a behemoth, and it would be a nice surprise if it did win me over, because I would truly love an excuse to buy the novel – the cover, as obsessed with it as I am, isn’t worth it to me right now. Unfortunately, I think what’s more likely to happen is I’ll have to drop the whole thing after a trauma response :’( I promise I’ll try tho!!!
And yeah, that lil Shi Mei spoiler was exactly precisely what I expected was going to happen LMAOOOO – it was either that or he was going to get the fluffier side romance, and based on the nastiness in the comments…I pretty much had it figured out
@MissEve mo ran is in fact not in his right mind and that is because of shi mei. Without spoiler all i can say is you’ll definitely not like shi mei later on because of his whole plans and everything. And mo ran ( later known as mo zhongshi) will be so different when he gets back on right mind again. Mo ran (2.0) is literally devoted to his baobei shizhun like crazy and they are both so loving and each other’s whole world. Just give it time cause 2ha is one heck of a big novel. This is not even 1/10 th of it till now
LMAO that was long winded but the tldr is this: I’m do a dark romance, and I’m willing to be generous and infer based on previous info given (i.e: while not stated in the scene, something is mentioned previously that you can point to and go ‘oh it was vampire instincts, wonder how they’ll eventually overcome that’ or whatever) but unless the character was like, magically not in their right mind, I’ve never found myself being able to get past SA in a story where I’m expected to root for the character who did it to have a happy ending, it’s just kind of where I hit a pretty hard limit
@ U both Here’s the thing, I um…I have a very specific and narrow threshold for handling SA, and one of my personal caveats is that it can’t be in a romance, unless we’re talking about one of the partners being like…like, a werewolf or a siren or something (I’ve seen evil mermen pop up a time or two and I kind of love that honestly – IS HE SECRETLY AN EVIL MERMAN OR A WEREWOLF? IS THAT WHERE THE HUSKY COMES FROM? CUZ I AM ALL IN IF SO) where instincts are too strong and they literally cannot control themselves and need to deal with that somehow. And by romance I’m specifically talking where you’re supposed to genuinely be rooting for the couple as opposed to just enjoying them looking hot together and there’s a happily ever after.
Like, I know there are a few pieces of media that I actually enjoy that are kind of erotic dramas talking about classism and how it can drive an insurmountable wedge between people who are into each other that deal with it (Ai no Kusabi is one off the top of my head) but like…idk, obviously he’s supposed to be hot and obviously you’re meant to be at least nominally sympathetic to him but like…you’re never supposed to think Jason (the ‘ ml’) is like, a GOOD DUDE, you know? And it doesn’t end happily – ditto for something else I found on here uuuuh…My Majesty Your Grace???
I mean, all that said, a big part of the issue is that it triggers me based on personal experience, and you’re never gonna have a PERFECT read on what’s going to set you off and what won’t. I’ll skim it for the art, and I guess it’s POSSIBLE I might be able to get on board, but it’s unlikely. :(((
And LMAO yeah re Shi Mei I figured there was SOME reason people were reacting to him the way they were, so I have absolutely no expectations it’ll last, as I said LOL LOL LOL 😛
Oh well! You can’t like everything! I think I’ve FINALLY given up on trying to find historical bl manhua I enjoy outside of MXTX :’( I tried so hard, y’all, I’m glad you’re all having a good time tho TnT
@MissEve Out of all the characters, u…alright, but here is a tiny spoiler, shi mei is a complex character, many of the characters from this tory are too…So u won’t have to afraid of him turning out to be a typical white lotus…
And I admit reading this one takes patience…But it’s worth it…Tho if you don’t want complex plot and here for romance then it’s not one here…It’s as @purplelotus said, a very slow burn…and you’ll want to murder our MC more than one time…he’s also a complex character and there is a reason why he’s such an ahole rn and in past life…and trust me it’s not a sob story which most scum MCs has…and he’ll change…
@MissEve oh idk if you’ve read the novel but sjbsbd out of the characters you like it has to be Shi Mei huh 😅 Not gonna spoil anything tho, but 2ha is slow burn.
Gosh darn it, no shade whatsoever, but I wanted to like this *SO BADLY*. The aesthetics are SO on point, the art – and not just the manhua, I gasped audibly when I saw the cover of the first volume of the novel in English – is just like…out of this world. The characters are beautiful too, I especially love how the artist does fluffy bangs!
I just absolutely cannot stand the story or a single character in it, except so far for Shi Mei, and I assume he’s going to turn out to be some sort of total harpy. It KIND of makes me wanna cry – I guess I’ll keep skimming it for the pretty??? SCHNIFF, maybe I’m wrong and there’ll be a side romance with my boy that I can get into
NobodyzHomez
fr tf is this chat ppl?!
Zurichilly
The people down below using chat gpt or smth cuz there ain’t no way 💀
Chuwanningluvr
I’m writing my opinion in my tests now
houchi50
What happen to the comments section 😂, looks like we have an essay exam. peace ✌️
Luchixyy
I AIN’T READING ALLAT COMMENTS BELOW.
bitchstfu
@MissEve the fact that u keep coming back to this chapter just to see if people replied to your comment is so hilarious like are u that worried what people will say and serious shi mei out of all the characters😭🤣.
Bettygift
Jeez reading the comments now 😂 Just stop the novel if you can’t be patient for the outcome .
Bettygift
😂😂 chibi so funny
MissEve
@wormie
Don’t like, don’t read 😛 (jkjk, totally get it, mia culpa LOL)
wormie
bruh long ass comments just to convince one picky person
Nessie
@MissEve
At the end of the day it all depends on you…I just described what to expect from the plot cz I felt like u were a bit confused where is this going…I wasn’t trying to convince u to read cz reading is something that totally depends on the readers taste and mood, looks like some people misunderstood lol…
If you feel like continuing for either plot or art or both thn it’s fine…but if u drop it sometimes in the future then it’s also totally fine…u don’t have to force urself to read or like it cz many other people like it…it also doesn’t mean ur calling it bad…
Many people like One piece but I don’t and this not liking – it’s totally fine…Do whatever u want…❤️…
MissEve
@Nessie Right, so I want to be TOTALLY clear:
I made that original comment because I had been SO excited to give this a try, especially when I saw how beautiful it was, and was disappointed that none of what was going on in it jived with me. It was kind of like finding a gorgeous cake in a shop, getting it home, and having an allergic reaction. The thing is, I’m starting to get worried that people think I’m calling it *bad* – that’s not it at all! I might go around taking the mickey out of some of the things posted here, but ultimately, these all started as novels, posted on the internet for free, that are one person’s labour of love. You don’t have to sell it to me or defend it! Maybe I’m here to be salty on occasion, and maybe I’ll give my two cents on portrayals of queer folks like myself in these works, but I’m SURE not here to be judgey about what people like!
I’m an artist, and I went to school for the arts. I’m no stranger to reading and watching dense, difficult work, and I have done since I was about 12. I’m also perfectly content with the fact that not wanting to run out and put something on my shelf immediately does not make it BAD. Like, does the fact that the only song I enjoy listening to on The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill is Everything is Everything mean that the entire album isn’t an incredible milestone in hip hop history? Absolutely not!
All I’m saying is that when I’m reading a romance SPECIFICALLY – not an erotic thriller, not a fantasy with a romance in it, a ROMANCE – I want to believe in the couple, and I prefer to be sold on it fairly early on. I like a slow burn, but I want to look at the characters and be like “oh I am going to enjoy getting blue balled on this” – so far, this isn’t giving that for me. I also have a couple of hard outs, which are SA and relentless pursuit of someone who isn’t interested and eventually wearing that person down. Had it happen to me multiple times, and I hated every one.
None of that, however, is a knock on the work! It’s just what *I* like, and I happen to prefer to engage in the genre in a very self indulgent way, which is why I’m so picky about the content beyond the merit of the work itself. That said, for a lot of people, I’m sure this IS self indulgent! It’s just not self indulgent for *me*.
That said, I’m going to continue to give it a whirl for the art, which I’m in absolute lesbians with, and since I’m doing that, I’m going to treat the story itself like an intense amusement park ride I’m trying to get used to! Maybe I’ll be able to, maybe I won’t, y’know?
MissEve
@He Xuan Zhu LOL honey, I appreciate the input, but reading comprehension is not the issue here, I assure you
He Xuan Zhu
@MissEve …a lot of people are trying to convince you to read this but…from all your comments I would say, forget it. This is clearly not a novel for you. It is too emotionally complex with difficult material that you do not wish to engage with so…it is best to turn away from this one. Anyone who would place tl:dr in a comment is automatically probably not cut out for 2HA because if you aren’t reading carefully…why bother. It is good to be aware of your boundaries and move on to material you prefer.
Nessie
@MissEve
Don’t worry it’s a very very hard earned HE…For the main couple at least…there’ll beloved and important side characters dying here and there…And their past life will play a big role, it’s not “just there” like many reborn novels…
And shi mei is a great villain…Seriously he’s onr of the best and well made villain I’ve read in web novel…he has reasons(that doesn’t mean it’s excusable tho), plans and goals for his actions, unlike many other 2d villains…and shi mei never liked mo ran, the good treatment and white lotus like antics are all his pretense…He’s a ruthless sly fox(not actual fox, a metaphor)…he’s actually very jealous of mo ran, I can’t explain why, cz it’ll be a massive spoiler…and yeah he’s behind MLs mental instability…
the plot will unravel itself slowly and everything will have a reason by the end…
cz as @yumi_chan said it’s a long ass novel…and yeah mo ran 2.0 becomes really sweet and devoted…
2.0 is what author and readers call him that when he becomes stable and the true him, past mo ran is mo ran 0.5 and current one is 1.0 lol…
Also husky, white cat etc aren’t used here as literally…It’s more like their spirit animals are like them…like- shizun is a tsundere like a cat, loves you but won’t say it and express it…rather doing opposite…
mo ran when instable is like a dumb rabid dog without who won’t listen to u no matter what…but when he’s stable he’s like a lovable husky who does dumb things to impress the one he likes…
also shizuns other discipke xue meng is like a peacock cz he always worried for his looks lol…and shi mei one I already said…
MissEve
Still *extremely* skeptical, but I’ll bounce around for the pretty art and I guess we’ll see? I know it’s a behemoth, and it would be a nice surprise if it did win me over, because I would truly love an excuse to buy the novel – the cover, as obsessed with it as I am, isn’t worth it to me right now. Unfortunately, I think what’s more likely to happen is I’ll have to drop the whole thing after a trauma response :’( I promise I’ll try tho!!!
And yeah, that lil Shi Mei spoiler was exactly precisely what I expected was going to happen LMAOOOO – it was either that or he was going to get the fluffier side romance, and based on the nastiness in the comments…I pretty much had it figured out
yumi_chan
@MissEve mo ran is in fact not in his right mind and that is because of shi mei. Without spoiler all i can say is you’ll definitely not like shi mei later on because of his whole plans and everything. And mo ran ( later known as mo zhongshi) will be so different when he gets back on right mind again. Mo ran (2.0) is literally devoted to his baobei shizhun like crazy and they are both so loving and each other’s whole world. Just give it time cause 2ha is one heck of a big novel. This is not even 1/10 th of it till now
MissEve
LMAO that was long winded but the tldr is this: I’m do a dark romance, and I’m willing to be generous and infer based on previous info given (i.e: while not stated in the scene, something is mentioned previously that you can point to and go ‘oh it was vampire instincts, wonder how they’ll eventually overcome that’ or whatever) but unless the character was like, magically not in their right mind, I’ve never found myself being able to get past SA in a story where I’m expected to root for the character who did it to have a happy ending, it’s just kind of where I hit a pretty hard limit
MissEve
@ U both Here’s the thing, I um…I have a very specific and narrow threshold for handling SA, and one of my personal caveats is that it can’t be in a romance, unless we’re talking about one of the partners being like…like, a werewolf or a siren or something (I’ve seen evil mermen pop up a time or two and I kind of love that honestly – IS HE SECRETLY AN EVIL MERMAN OR A WEREWOLF? IS THAT WHERE THE HUSKY COMES FROM? CUZ I AM ALL IN IF SO) where instincts are too strong and they literally cannot control themselves and need to deal with that somehow. And by romance I’m specifically talking where you’re supposed to genuinely be rooting for the couple as opposed to just enjoying them looking hot together and there’s a happily ever after.
Like, I know there are a few pieces of media that I actually enjoy that are kind of erotic dramas talking about classism and how it can drive an insurmountable wedge between people who are into each other that deal with it (Ai no Kusabi is one off the top of my head) but like…idk, obviously he’s supposed to be hot and obviously you’re meant to be at least nominally sympathetic to him but like…you’re never supposed to think Jason (the ‘ ml’) is like, a GOOD DUDE, you know? And it doesn’t end happily – ditto for something else I found on here uuuuh…My Majesty Your Grace???
I mean, all that said, a big part of the issue is that it triggers me based on personal experience, and you’re never gonna have a PERFECT read on what’s going to set you off and what won’t. I’ll skim it for the art, and I guess it’s POSSIBLE I might be able to get on board, but it’s unlikely. :(((
And LMAO yeah re Shi Mei I figured there was SOME reason people were reacting to him the way they were, so I have absolutely no expectations it’ll last, as I said LOL LOL LOL 😛
Oh well! You can’t like everything! I think I’ve FINALLY given up on trying to find historical bl manhua I enjoy outside of MXTX :’( I tried so hard, y’all, I’m glad you’re all having a good time tho TnT
Nessie
@MissEve Out of all the characters, u…alright, but here is a tiny spoiler, shi mei is a complex character, many of the characters from this tory are too…So u won’t have to afraid of him turning out to be a typical white lotus…
And I admit reading this one takes patience…But it’s worth it…Tho if you don’t want complex plot and here for romance then it’s not one here…It’s as @purplelotus said, a very slow burn…and you’ll want to murder our MC more than one time…he’s also a complex character and there is a reason why he’s such an ahole rn and in past life…and trust me it’s not a sob story which most scum MCs has…and he’ll change…
purplelotus
@MissEve oh idk if you’ve read the novel but sjbsbd out of the characters you like it has to be Shi Mei huh 😅 Not gonna spoil anything tho, but 2ha is slow burn.
MissEve
Gosh darn it, no shade whatsoever, but I wanted to like this *SO BADLY*. The aesthetics are SO on point, the art – and not just the manhua, I gasped audibly when I saw the cover of the first volume of the novel in English – is just like…out of this world. The characters are beautiful too, I especially love how the artist does fluffy bangs!
I just absolutely cannot stand the story or a single character in it, except so far for Shi Mei, and I assume he’s going to turn out to be some sort of total harpy. It KIND of makes me wanna cry – I guess I’ll keep skimming it for the pretty??? SCHNIFF, maybe I’m wrong and there’ll be a side romance with my boy that I can get into