Oh I think that’s perfectly clear in the comic too, like the impression I got just from this is that it’s a combo of Qiyu getting off on humiliating him, using him as a tool to humiliate his family and LiQing, and I guess MAYBE – MAYBE – liking his body (he does have a nice one) and being into the ego stroking
@MissEve I get you also its a typo i meant to say in the novel Huner dies trying to pull a stunt (as he should) and the prince never has feelings for him
Oh and aaaaah last last last LMAO – I just realized you were probs talking about me saying Hu Nu’er being used to make LiQing look good when you thought I was hating on him!
Absolutely not! That wasn’t well phrased and that’s on me, but what I MEANT was, I wish that instead of pitting themselves against each other they would team up OR I wish that both characters were just written with equal amounts of…like, empathy? Because you could easily do that without making LiQing look bad (I actually think it would drive the point home more if it really focused on Hu Nu’er mourning his family and hating everyone here and hating LiQing for what his father was ordered to do, it would make for SUCH a good cry over his death) That’s a me thing, like I said, because I absolutely get that a lot of people just like having a bitch to hate 😂 this is just me trying to explain, not convince anyone that that’s the “better” route!
You mentioned the dancing at the gathering bit – so I figure the way that’s MEANT to be interpreted, particularly in the novel I suspect although I’ve not read it, is more…Hu nu’er attempting to suck up to Qiyu and for the audience to snigger a bit at his delusion that Qiyu sort of cares a bit about him. That’s completely fine – it’s not my bag as a trope, like I said, but I do get it.
There’s another way to interpret it, which I personally prefer, and which is supported more by the manhua *in my opinion* which is simply that it’s further proof Hu Nu’er doesn’t like being here – he’s willing to debase himself for Qiyu to stay alive, but there are limits to what he’ll plaster on a smile and do without a fuss. He ALSO knows Qiyu will lash out indiscriminately, and that if SOMEONE doesn’t agree to it “willingly”, he could just as easily be on the other end of a sword as LiQing.
Again, that is…a pull LMAO and it’s just how I’m choosing to look at it
(Also I said I wouldn’t be caught dead near an imperial palace – untrue, I would go there to steal clothes and then DASH 😂😂😂 I actually think my favourite thing about LiQing is the amazing outfits the artist imagines for him)
@cvcvcv LMAO oh honestly I would LOL!!! Although you wouldn’t catch me dead anywhere near no imperial palace 😂
As for LiQing, there are ABSOLUTELY parts where I’ve been…let’s call it disappointed? For sure, but I think most of those were intentional on the part of the author (I don’t think the idea was ever to make him ‘perfect’? more like a very sheltered person with a good heart who gets thrown into a crashing plane with no pilot training LOL and that’s completely fine!) and mostly in the same way you can be disappointed or frustrated with a friend who gets themself into a bad relationship and just can’t be helped, even though you’re still on their side and know their the one being taken advantage of and hurt. You can bet I am absolutely in his corner, he doesn’t deserve this one bit! I actually said in at least like 3 previous comments “he’s literally just trying to vibe!” Or similar 😂😂😂
Because you are absolutely correct he is in fact LITERALLY just trying to vibe, or exist and stay loyal, as you specifically said!!!
@MissEve okay I get what you’re saying but people like Huner are not ALWAYS the victim. like he also has to be held accountable. Yeah he’s a slave and he might be acting like an a*shole to get out of his situation but to the point where he’s trying to kill off LiQing (novel Huner is VILE to liqing who actually tries to get along with him). Later LiQing dies trying to pull a stunt (as he should honestly) and its nice to know the prince never even cared about him. And trust me when i say he didn’t dance to help LiQing he danced to win favors from the emperor (who just gets more disgusted). Yeah so if u think ur just a en empathetic person for understand huner then sorry to say you would probs killed off by him if u were in the novel. And why does it sound like ur trying to hate on LiQing when he’s literally just existing and trying to stay loyal
Ok like he’s pretty and he seems nice and despite some of what I’m about to say I still really like him, but first frankly having the same deadly disease is a WAY better connection hook for LiQing and Prince #2 than “gasp you’re so beautiful I cannot function” (and like also…considering the point of kind second ML is to sort of effortlessly be everything the MC wants…is LiQing the sort of person who would even appreciate someone who yes, thinks he’s accomplished, but seems REAL obsessed with his physical appearance? I feel like no) so I wish they’d drop like 90% of the other thing and stick to that. Second, I get that he’s coming from a place of “this is a decent person who I just saw in a frankly unbelievably embarrassing display from the most embarrassing imperial family of all time”…but like…WHO ACCOSTS A MARRIED PERSON THEYVE MET *ONCE* AND TELLS THEM TO DITCH THEIR SPOUSE. I’m sure it works for a lot of people, but it seems UNHINGED to me.
ALSO, like I totally appreciate the negative opinions of Hunuer, but like…I’m getting REAL tired of him basically being there to be the pretty blonde bitch that makes LiQing look like a saint *WHEN HE IS A ~SLAVE~ WHO DOESN’T WANT TO BE THERE*. Like damn, he just agreed to dance and spared LiQing the embarrassment. Maybe he did it out of fear, but he still did it.
(I get that this is a trope a lot of people like, and that’s absolutely fine, I’m JUST purging my thoughts, I guess I just happen to have known a lot of girls who present themselves like Hunuer and actually just lack so much confidence that they will stick to you like glue if you do ONE genuine kind thing for them. One time all it took was me staying with a girl who was scared to go faster than a walk on a horseback outing. I still remember the hug she gave me on the last day of school before we both went off to uni.)
Also also also…can’t WAIT to see how this last scene is going to turn out. I bet the emperor is gonna be REAL empathetic. 🙄
Baby01
Pei xingxiu is bold I must say, he’s actually asking the hand of crown prince’s official wife…and I am okay with that really
MissEve
@cvcvcv
Oh I think that’s perfectly clear in the comic too, like the impression I got just from this is that it’s a combo of Qiyu getting off on humiliating him, using him as a tool to humiliate his family and LiQing, and I guess MAYBE – MAYBE – liking his body (he does have a nice one) and being into the ego stroking
cvcvcv
@MissEve I get you also its a typo i meant to say in the novel Huner dies trying to pull a stunt (as he should) and the prince never has feelings for him
MissEve
Oh and aaaaah last last last LMAO – I just realized you were probs talking about me saying Hu Nu’er being used to make LiQing look good when you thought I was hating on him!
Absolutely not! That wasn’t well phrased and that’s on me, but what I MEANT was, I wish that instead of pitting themselves against each other they would team up OR I wish that both characters were just written with equal amounts of…like, empathy? Because you could easily do that without making LiQing look bad (I actually think it would drive the point home more if it really focused on Hu Nu’er mourning his family and hating everyone here and hating LiQing for what his father was ordered to do, it would make for SUCH a good cry over his death) That’s a me thing, like I said, because I absolutely get that a lot of people just like having a bitch to hate 😂 this is just me trying to explain, not convince anyone that that’s the “better” route!
Sorry sorry sorry I just have Big Feelings!!!
MissEve
Oh and to add really quickly to what I said!
You mentioned the dancing at the gathering bit – so I figure the way that’s MEANT to be interpreted, particularly in the novel I suspect although I’ve not read it, is more…Hu nu’er attempting to suck up to Qiyu and for the audience to snigger a bit at his delusion that Qiyu sort of cares a bit about him. That’s completely fine – it’s not my bag as a trope, like I said, but I do get it.
There’s another way to interpret it, which I personally prefer, and which is supported more by the manhua *in my opinion* which is simply that it’s further proof Hu Nu’er doesn’t like being here – he’s willing to debase himself for Qiyu to stay alive, but there are limits to what he’ll plaster on a smile and do without a fuss. He ALSO knows Qiyu will lash out indiscriminately, and that if SOMEONE doesn’t agree to it “willingly”, he could just as easily be on the other end of a sword as LiQing.
Again, that is…a pull LMAO and it’s just how I’m choosing to look at it
(Also I said I wouldn’t be caught dead near an imperial palace – untrue, I would go there to steal clothes and then DASH 😂😂😂 I actually think my favourite thing about LiQing is the amazing outfits the artist imagines for him)
MissEve
@cvcvcv LMAO oh honestly I would LOL!!! Although you wouldn’t catch me dead anywhere near no imperial palace 😂
As for LiQing, there are ABSOLUTELY parts where I’ve been…let’s call it disappointed? For sure, but I think most of those were intentional on the part of the author (I don’t think the idea was ever to make him ‘perfect’? more like a very sheltered person with a good heart who gets thrown into a crashing plane with no pilot training LOL and that’s completely fine!) and mostly in the same way you can be disappointed or frustrated with a friend who gets themself into a bad relationship and just can’t be helped, even though you’re still on their side and know their the one being taken advantage of and hurt. You can bet I am absolutely in his corner, he doesn’t deserve this one bit! I actually said in at least like 3 previous comments “he’s literally just trying to vibe!” Or similar 😂😂😂
Because you are absolutely correct he is in fact LITERALLY just trying to vibe, or exist and stay loyal, as you specifically said!!!
Anyway! A 💖 for you!!!
cvcvcv
@MissEve okay I get what you’re saying but people like Huner are not ALWAYS the victim. like he also has to be held accountable. Yeah he’s a slave and he might be acting like an a*shole to get out of his situation but to the point where he’s trying to kill off LiQing (novel Huner is VILE to liqing who actually tries to get along with him). Later LiQing dies trying to pull a stunt (as he should honestly) and its nice to know the prince never even cared about him. And trust me when i say he didn’t dance to help LiQing he danced to win favors from the emperor (who just gets more disgusted). Yeah so if u think ur just a en empathetic person for understand huner then sorry to say you would probs killed off by him if u were in the novel. And why does it sound like ur trying to hate on LiQing when he’s literally just existing and trying to stay loyal
Lacoquitopr
Cliffhanger 😫!
Deeyodee
Not me skipping all the panel and read just the comments instead lol.
Waiting for the comment that say : “hah! Serve you right.”
MissEve
Ok like he’s pretty and he seems nice and despite some of what I’m about to say I still really like him, but first frankly having the same deadly disease is a WAY better connection hook for LiQing and Prince #2 than “gasp you’re so beautiful I cannot function” (and like also…considering the point of kind second ML is to sort of effortlessly be everything the MC wants…is LiQing the sort of person who would even appreciate someone who yes, thinks he’s accomplished, but seems REAL obsessed with his physical appearance? I feel like no) so I wish they’d drop like 90% of the other thing and stick to that. Second, I get that he’s coming from a place of “this is a decent person who I just saw in a frankly unbelievably embarrassing display from the most embarrassing imperial family of all time”…but like…WHO ACCOSTS A MARRIED PERSON THEYVE MET *ONCE* AND TELLS THEM TO DITCH THEIR SPOUSE. I’m sure it works for a lot of people, but it seems UNHINGED to me.
ALSO, like I totally appreciate the negative opinions of Hunuer, but like…I’m getting REAL tired of him basically being there to be the pretty blonde bitch that makes LiQing look like a saint *WHEN HE IS A ~SLAVE~ WHO DOESN’T WANT TO BE THERE*. Like damn, he just agreed to dance and spared LiQing the embarrassment. Maybe he did it out of fear, but he still did it.
(I get that this is a trope a lot of people like, and that’s absolutely fine, I’m JUST purging my thoughts, I guess I just happen to have known a lot of girls who present themselves like Hunuer and actually just lack so much confidence that they will stick to you like glue if you do ONE genuine kind thing for them. One time all it took was me staying with a girl who was scared to go faster than a walk on a horseback outing. I still remember the hug she gave me on the last day of school before we both went off to uni.)
Also also also…can’t WAIT to see how this last scene is going to turn out. I bet the emperor is gonna be REAL empathetic. 🙄