The story is too repetitive, angsty and toxic. Even their sons repeating the same cycle over again, so if you cannot come up with a different plot line, just leave it be altogether.
Exactly! And here’s the thing, to be clear – I may not like LiQing as much as you do, and there may not be anyone I’m super interested in seeing him end up with in the story as written, but that doesn’t mean I’m not a rooting for him! I’m my mind it’s not a situation where you have to “choose” – I think I’m simply more sympathetic to Hu than perhaps the author intended 😂😂😂
Clearly I cannot help but root for a slave. Really though, THEMATICALLY what it comes down to IMHO when I’m talking about Hunu’er is that like…I sort of see him (Hunu’er) as a physical representation of the fact that this is how Qiyu treats someone he *says he cares about*, and what it tells ME is that even if LiQing gains his “favour”, he wouldn’t be spared from the chopping block. He’s a slave too, and ultimately it’ll NEVER get better. Qiyu will be in the love bombing phase of the abuse cycle at the end of this and within months of that “the end” , *in my opinion* will be choking him out and making him bleed during sex again.
People keep talking about where Shen Yu is. Personally, I think he simply had his spirit LITERALLY beaten out of him.
And I think that however you read it, that is SUPPOSED to make your blood boil, right?
For the record! I don’t think LiQing is jelly either! I think he’s like…appalled at what Qiyu is doing. What I mean is he sees someone who obviously takes immense care and pride in their looks – makeup, elaborate hair, showy and sometimes quite risqué clothing – which, being a scholar whose interest in his looks is very clearly down to neatness and quality garments, he would obviously consider shallow.
I think I enjoy Hunu’ers less…let’s say anachronistic clothing the best, but I also don’t think he’s the prettiest thing in this story. All the guys are kind of same level pretty to me 😂😅 some of the designs I PERSONALLY find more…bland? Than others, but I would say that’s EXTREMELY subjective.
@MissEve idk I think this is like remarried empress all over again with people infantilizing and making trashta more innocent than she is. And plus I really think it’s presumptous to think that Liqing is jealous of Huner. He is not the most beautiful man in everyone’s eyes even by QiYu’s because QiYu blushes at LiQing and the prince risked his life to ask for LiQing’s hand. And that’s what Liqing is trying to say here to , the whole point is he isn’t jealous of Huner and he even seems to have gotten over QiYu romantically. The only reason he still looks to QiYu even after the prince saved his life is cause QiYu is sensitive and gets mad at EVERYTHING. so obviously the first thing he’ll be looking for is his abusive husband to setaite him before any further misunderstanding happens.But yeah this whole chapter those Huner and Qiyu were ganging up against Liqing and saying this happened cause he was jealous, when he wasn’t… it happened cause of the emperor. Plus did you read what QiYu said at the end… that he was gonna give to LiQing what happened to Huner 10 FOLD?! I would say that’s more fatal than Liqing. And not that’s its a compition but Huner is QiYu’s so no one but QiYu is with him and when Liqing and QiYu get intimate, its ROUGH ROUGH. But yeah I hope this doesn’t sound like an attack this is just how I see it. It’s just that ending when QiYu insisted that it was LiQing’s fault and then Huner was like “yeah it must be Liqing”… it made my blood lowkey boil lol
WHERE THE FUCK ID SHEN YU??!!! C’MON JUST GET YOUR SON-IN-LAW’S ASS IN YOUR ROOM, AND LET HIM COMPLAIN ABOUT YOUR SON AND WHAT KIND OF A ASSHOLE HE’S BEING!!
(Oh and all that said I don’t think Hunu’er would treat them any better had his kingdom won the war LMAO the reality in the story is however that he’s the one enslaved, so that’s what I’m going on
Idk I just think that considering we’re doing asshole mls anyway, they might get along way better if they were free of all the machinations they’re caught in, and I think they should run away together and MAYBE kiss a bit 😂😂😂 – ultimately, who knows what kind of person Hunu’er would be if he weren’t in such extreme conditions?)
Oh yeah! I get that! I think we’re just interpreting the story differently and that’s totally chill! I’m delighted to hear your perspective! I’ll explain, but I don’t expect to change your mind! 😂 and that’s totally chill too!
When I say he has an obsession, I AM exaggerating for effect but I’m talking specifically about the other Prince – he literally sacrificed his life for LiQing and LiQing’s reaction was “where’s Qiyu?” You could interpret that as him being worried that Qiyu will be angry about the whole thing or find out he’s sick or whatnot, BUT. He never even acknowledges the sacrifice.
As for Hunu’er, I think we’re seeing that equal treatment here on the page right now. This kind of punishment is no joke. It has been known to be fatal. And he’s a slave, which like…not to put too fine a point on it, but he’s a slave, and the comic isn’t from his perspective. We have NO idea what’s happening to him off page, but it is probably straight up horiffic – for one, it’s reasonable to assume he’s also probably being sexually assaulted even more than LiQing is.
I’m not saying LiQing has behaved badly by the standards he’s been taught to adhere too. What I mean is that it’s sad that they’re being pitted against each other. They OUGHT to band together, but because of the web of horrible disgusting shitheads theyre both caught in they can’t. Even if LiQing was nice, why would Hunu’er trust the son of a man who participated in killing his family and in whose house he is a slave? The only way LiQing could reasonably gain that trust is by helping him escape. And why would LiQing, who is terribly sheltered, clearly gets every opinion he has about the world out of books, and has this grand romantic vision of a marriage trust the son of an enemy kingdom who is absolutely fucking his husband and whose likely actual conditions he has no concept of? All he would see is a beautiful bitchy man his husband prefers and shows off who would be happy if he died
@MissEve I have to disagree with alot of what you just said. How is LiQing blinded by his obsession? He had a crush on QiYu at the beginning but soon realized that that’s not gonna do anything for him so now he’s only holding on for his father’s sake. And no, they are not being abused in the same way, Huner gets maybe 1/4th of what Liqing gets that only difference is that when Huner gets punished its by the emperor (he rarely diciplin for some reason) and its infornt of others while Liquing abuse happens behind dorrs almost everyday it seems like by the hands of QiYu who we have seen is worse than his father. Plus Huner has QiYu the master of the mansion on his side cause QiYu is a rebellious brat and likes anything his father doesn’t. And LiQing has TRIED to be kind to Huner and speak to him obviously he has to address him as a slave because That’s what he in. That[‘s how noble kid’s were taught to address slaves Liqing does not do it with malicious intent. I get that Huner is kissing up to QiYu to protect himself but there is NO reason for him to treat LiQing the way that he has. So if everyone is ganging up on him even though he is just trying to stay to himself and protect himself, why should Liquing continue to understand and feel sympathy for Huner? Liqing’s only fault is that he is timid and I feel like he should have been the one to complain about Huner. He’s too kind,
This is so upsetting, because if ANYONE in this comic, these two are being used and abused in the *exact same way* and ought to be banding together for support, but they keep being pitted against each other.
Like, of COURSE Hunu’er would assume LiQing is trying to have him killed. His father participated in the murder of his family, and because LiQing is so blinded to everyone else by his obsession with Qiyu, he doesn’t realize that from Hunu’ers perspective, he’s been opposed to his only means of LITERALLY staying alive. Its not LiQing’s fault though, its these psychotic royals who are bouncing the two of them around like ping pongs.
Honestly I hope *every single member* of the imperial family rots away as miserably as possible in hell.
TendoBakso
But you all still read it anyway, the author just providing “product” that sells
heartsamessgaultier
The story is too repetitive, angsty and toxic. Even their sons repeating the same cycle over again, so if you cannot come up with a different plot line, just leave it be altogether.
MissEve
@cvcvcv
Exactly! And here’s the thing, to be clear – I may not like LiQing as much as you do, and there may not be anyone I’m super interested in seeing him end up with in the story as written, but that doesn’t mean I’m not a rooting for him! I’m my mind it’s not a situation where you have to “choose” – I think I’m simply more sympathetic to Hu than perhaps the author intended 😂😂😂
cvcvcv
@MissEve I get that. It is a story after all and we can all root for different people! Atleast, we all can agree on the root of the problem lol 🙂
MissEve
*I’m STARTING to think
MissEve
@cv OH and one more thing!
Clearly I cannot help but root for a slave. Really though, THEMATICALLY what it comes down to IMHO when I’m talking about Hunu’er is that like…I sort of see him (Hunu’er) as a physical representation of the fact that this is how Qiyu treats someone he *says he cares about*, and what it tells ME is that even if LiQing gains his “favour”, he wouldn’t be spared from the chopping block. He’s a slave too, and ultimately it’ll NEVER get better. Qiyu will be in the love bombing phase of the abuse cycle at the end of this and within months of that “the end” , *in my opinion* will be choking him out and making him bleed during sex again.
People keep talking about where Shen Yu is. Personally, I think he simply had his spirit LITERALLY beaten out of him.
MissEve
@cv didn’t feel like an attack at all babe!!!
And I think that however you read it, that is SUPPOSED to make your blood boil, right?
For the record! I don’t think LiQing is jelly either! I think he’s like…appalled at what Qiyu is doing. What I mean is he sees someone who obviously takes immense care and pride in their looks – makeup, elaborate hair, showy and sometimes quite risqué clothing – which, being a scholar whose interest in his looks is very clearly down to neatness and quality garments, he would obviously consider shallow.
I think I enjoy Hunu’ers less…let’s say anachronistic clothing the best, but I also don’t think he’s the prettiest thing in this story. All the guys are kind of same level pretty to me 😂😅 some of the designs I PERSONALLY find more…bland? Than others, but I would say that’s EXTREMELY subjective.
cvcvcv
@MissEve idk I think this is like remarried empress all over again with people infantilizing and making trashta more innocent than she is. And plus I really think it’s presumptous to think that Liqing is jealous of Huner. He is not the most beautiful man in everyone’s eyes even by QiYu’s because QiYu blushes at LiQing and the prince risked his life to ask for LiQing’s hand. And that’s what Liqing is trying to say here to , the whole point is he isn’t jealous of Huner and he even seems to have gotten over QiYu romantically. The only reason he still looks to QiYu even after the prince saved his life is cause QiYu is sensitive and gets mad at EVERYTHING. so obviously the first thing he’ll be looking for is his abusive husband to setaite him before any further misunderstanding happens.But yeah this whole chapter those Huner and Qiyu were ganging up against Liqing and saying this happened cause he was jealous, when he wasn’t… it happened cause of the emperor. Plus did you read what QiYu said at the end… that he was gonna give to LiQing what happened to Huner 10 FOLD?! I would say that’s more fatal than Liqing. And not that’s its a compition but Huner is QiYu’s so no one but QiYu is with him and when Liqing and QiYu get intimate, its ROUGH ROUGH. But yeah I hope this doesn’t sound like an attack this is just how I see it. It’s just that ending when QiYu insisted that it was LiQing’s fault and then Huner was like “yeah it must be Liqing”… it made my blood lowkey boil lol
I DON"T READ NOVELS!
WHERE THE FUCK ID SHEN YU??!!! C’MON JUST GET YOUR SON-IN-LAW’S ASS IN YOUR ROOM, AND LET HIM COMPLAIN ABOUT YOUR SON AND WHAT KIND OF A ASSHOLE HE’S BEING!!
Feopi Sama
I can’t believe that I’m reading the same shit all over again…
unbelievable.. but I can’t stop it..
MissEve
(Oh and all that said I don’t think Hunu’er would treat them any better had his kingdom won the war LMAO the reality in the story is however that he’s the one enslaved, so that’s what I’m going on
Idk I just think that considering we’re doing asshole mls anyway, they might get along way better if they were free of all the machinations they’re caught in, and I think they should run away together and MAYBE kiss a bit 😂😂😂 – ultimately, who knows what kind of person Hunu’er would be if he weren’t in such extreme conditions?)
MissEve
@cv
Oh yeah! I get that! I think we’re just interpreting the story differently and that’s totally chill! I’m delighted to hear your perspective! I’ll explain, but I don’t expect to change your mind! 😂 and that’s totally chill too!
When I say he has an obsession, I AM exaggerating for effect but I’m talking specifically about the other Prince – he literally sacrificed his life for LiQing and LiQing’s reaction was “where’s Qiyu?” You could interpret that as him being worried that Qiyu will be angry about the whole thing or find out he’s sick or whatnot, BUT. He never even acknowledges the sacrifice.
As for Hunu’er, I think we’re seeing that equal treatment here on the page right now. This kind of punishment is no joke. It has been known to be fatal. And he’s a slave, which like…not to put too fine a point on it, but he’s a slave, and the comic isn’t from his perspective. We have NO idea what’s happening to him off page, but it is probably straight up horiffic – for one, it’s reasonable to assume he’s also probably being sexually assaulted even more than LiQing is.
I’m not saying LiQing has behaved badly by the standards he’s been taught to adhere too. What I mean is that it’s sad that they’re being pitted against each other. They OUGHT to band together, but because of the web of horrible disgusting shitheads theyre both caught in they can’t. Even if LiQing was nice, why would Hunu’er trust the son of a man who participated in killing his family and in whose house he is a slave? The only way LiQing could reasonably gain that trust is by helping him escape. And why would LiQing, who is terribly sheltered, clearly gets every opinion he has about the world out of books, and has this grand romantic vision of a marriage trust the son of an enemy kingdom who is absolutely fucking his husband and whose likely actual conditions he has no concept of? All he would see is a beautiful bitchy man his husband prefers and shows off who would be happy if he died
BingQiuSupremacy
the art is carrying this story i s2g
youngii
dont know why am i even reading this same shit all over again
NiikimaU
Agh son is not better than his father in abusing his male wife ara ara I smell bad drama
cvcvcv
@MissEve I have to disagree with alot of what you just said. How is LiQing blinded by his obsession? He had a crush on QiYu at the beginning but soon realized that that’s not gonna do anything for him so now he’s only holding on for his father’s sake. And no, they are not being abused in the same way, Huner gets maybe 1/4th of what Liqing gets that only difference is that when Huner gets punished its by the emperor (he rarely diciplin for some reason) and its infornt of others while Liquing abuse happens behind dorrs almost everyday it seems like by the hands of QiYu who we have seen is worse than his father. Plus Huner has QiYu the master of the mansion on his side cause QiYu is a rebellious brat and likes anything his father doesn’t. And LiQing has TRIED to be kind to Huner and speak to him obviously he has to address him as a slave because That’s what he in. That[‘s how noble kid’s were taught to address slaves Liqing does not do it with malicious intent. I get that Huner is kissing up to QiYu to protect himself but there is NO reason for him to treat LiQing the way that he has. So if everyone is ganging up on him even though he is just trying to stay to himself and protect himself, why should Liquing continue to understand and feel sympathy for Huner? Liqing’s only fault is that he is timid and I feel like he should have been the one to complain about Huner. He’s too kind,
MissEve
This is so upsetting, because if ANYONE in this comic, these two are being used and abused in the *exact same way* and ought to be banding together for support, but they keep being pitted against each other.
Like, of COURSE Hunu’er would assume LiQing is trying to have him killed. His father participated in the murder of his family, and because LiQing is so blinded to everyone else by his obsession with Qiyu, he doesn’t realize that from Hunu’ers perspective, he’s been opposed to his only means of LITERALLY staying alive. Its not LiQing’s fault though, its these psychotic royals who are bouncing the two of them around like ping pongs.
Honestly I hope *every single member* of the imperial family rots away as miserably as possible in hell.
Lovely_star
Silent lover S1 was better.